b"Once more women became part of the management, you had more people that you can talk with and shareyour experiences.I believe when we took the super's exam, it was about five of us women only, maybe four African Americans and myself. We were in different boroughs. I was kept in the Bronx, which I was blessed because that gave me enough time tobe able to check up on my kids. I have two boys. I have to be on top of them. It was totally good. And my kids enjoyed itbecause I was able to give them what I never had. It was blessed.It sounds like a wonderful work experience. And, you're now able to enjoy your retirement as well. Yes, I do. I do. I do. Things have changed with the laws. The demands got bigger, so I couldn't take it anymore. I saidlet me just leave before I get fired. So, I said it was time to retire. I love what I do. I don't mind going into a building, intoa tenants apartment, and seeing for myself what's going on. I see what's needed and get the job done as best as I canwith the help of the borough office or whoever, the mechanics, the skill trades, the vendors. I'll try to get that job doneand done correctly. I don't want to go back again. But it was hard, maam. Like I said, the higher you go, the more pressure you have. When you get to your 28, 25,years in the housing authority, the supervisors above you, the deputies or the directors, put a lot on you. They don't appreciate the work that people do out in the field. We work very hard, male, female. We take a lot of abuse, a lot. Butit's still interesting. I love it. I love what I did.Well, you got some very good stories there and some very good memories.Oh incredible, it's beautiful. Oh, we forgot, the heating supervisor. Mr. John Macmillan gave me the opportunity tobe a heating plant technician.Mr. John Macmillan, a beautiful gentleman, was the administrator in charge of heating forall the boroughs. He chose me to work under his supervision. I worked under him five years at what I love, mechanics.I got an appointment at Throggs Neck Houses. Miss Naomi Lara was a beautiful lady too. She was a director. She saw that I was a good worker and she decided to give me the opportunity to be a provisional superintendent.I remember them all. That gentleman, Mr. Macmillan, looked so stern and serious. He was in the army, but he had a heartof a teddy bear. He was very kind. He knows how to listen to you, advise you. He broke my heart when he passed away,he's a gentleman. And there were a few people in housing that are real true friends there for you. When I was made fieldsuperintendent, therewere people, male supervisors, that didn't like that. They could have been put into that position,and they were very upset that I was chosen. But I was doing my job and I did it to the best of my ability. I used to finish myjob on time. I used to be at my location all the time. I used to write my reports, everything, on point. My supervisor neverhad a complaint. I had complaints from some supervisors because I said: Oh, this needs to be repaired and this is thetime frame that needs to be repaired. I go back to Mr. Macmillan and inform him and if it doesn't happen, I'm not goingto take the blame because I already gave you heads up. Please get it done. Don't want to do it. And they hated that. I gotto cover myself. I gave them time and it wouldn't happen, so, they used to hate that coming from a woman. I'm not doinganything to hurt you, I'm just being honest. Do the job. After that, then I went back into the field to be a superintendentof the Saint Mary's Park development in the Bronx.Yeah, it was all good.Thank you for your time and sharing your memories.140 "