b"that apartment. A lot of tenants worked and it's very hard to get into a lot of apartments. You didnt just go in and a tenantcould say, Oh, I didn't give no permission to him.So, you try to do a day's work, you try to enter a couple of times.Around ten, ten-thirty you used to come back for emergencies. These tickets take priority as a maintenance worker. Andthat carries you to lunch. Because, in those [days], we had no cell phones or anything so you try to stay in touch. What did you like best about your job? Or your jobs?It was very challenging. The days were always different, one day was never the same as the next day. You neverknow, you make plans, then once you get there, you got to alter the plans.It depends on the weather and who comes inor who's late and everything else. It's an operation and you feel good when the plant comes together. It was hard in someprojects, but the job got done.What was problematic for you? Or what did you like the least? I had to wear two hats. Here I was a supervisor, but I was an active member of the union. We were in the same local.And if somebody's giving me a very hard time, very disrespectful, not doing his job and everything else, I had to writehim up. I feel bad about that.When you were on the job, did you ever require union intervention regarding a problem on the job? Did theunion ever go to bat for you?Yes, when I was a superintendent. Like I said you wear two hats. If a building is in bad shape, you got to do some-thing. The district comes along to check the janitorial conditions, any cancelling memos, or anyone up on charges. If thereis nothing written, then you're a problem, you're not doing your job. At my retirement, one of the business agents toldme he was impressed with me. He said : I became a business agent and one of the first cases was with Tony Cottone inBorinquen Plaza and I had to tell you, I was defeated, not because I myself didn't do a good job preparing, but Tony prepared with details, in other words, the way he checked the buildingI lost the cases, but I have the greatest respectand I'm glad to be part of this retirement for Tony Cottone. Ed [Edmund] Kane was there, a lot of the union people; theygave me a big plaque and all.Did you ever require help with a problem from the union for yourself? No, I was never the defendant [laughs].What year did you retire? I believe it was November the second, 1996?And how old were you at the time of your retirement?Oh, okay, I think I was around 55.And, how old are you know?On Columbus Day, October the 12th, I'm going to be 75.87 "