b'You talked about getting substitutes. Did that happen often?Very regularly. Sometime you got good people and sometime you got people that you want to say, just go back towhere you came because you\'re not going to be effective. About midday, sometime you would have lunch, and sometime you didn\'t. If there was a problem or a suspension ora weapon or whatever, you would have to call the labor office. There were certain things you could not send over thewalkie, so you would have to do a landline. Sometime your supervisor would come, and you had to make sure you wroteyour SSO log-book and put your initials on it. If there was an incident or anything happened, you had to make sure thatwas in the log-book and that was initialed. If a supervisor didn\'t see your initials, you could be in trouble. When you weren\'t dealing with problems with weapons or disruptions in the school, could you describe theconnections or the relationships with the students that you had? You would walk the hall and you might find students not in their class or some student hanging out in the bathroom.You would try very hard to talk to students and encourage them. And many students you could encourage and talk tothem and say, you\'re going to get to class, you\'re going to go right now, I\'m going to walk you to class because youshouldn\'t be there. Because a kid, depending upon the location and size of the school, like Martin Luther King, couldhide around the whole day and never go to class. There were students that appreciate you and some of them didn\'t. Youcould see some students had potential and so you would try to encourage those students and talk to them. Sometime youwould threaten, I\'m gonna call your mother! even though that was not your job. Many times, you got out of the role ofbeing the police and you became the mentor to the students. Matter of fact, I\'m still in touch with so many students. I seea student on the street and they\'re grown up and some of them call me Miss Sarah and some of them call me Sarah andsay, "you know, you were rough but you saved my life."I was working at Jacqueline Kennedy; it was a smaller school soyou knew all of the students.I used to stop students; they would slip out. That was before the alarm. They would slip outthe door. The school had many doors, and you couldn\'t chain them. So, a student could go out the door and just book andleave. And I would run outside and say: "Are you going someplace?" and the student would say: "Damn, how did youknow I was leaving?" and those students are particularly very precious to me because they are now grown up. You stayed in touch with these students?We stayed in touch with each other, yeah.So, you were at Martin Luther King, Jacqueline Kennedy. Can you tell us about other schools you worked in?A Philip Randolph. And I was at a junior high school on 143rd street in the Esplanade Garden area and-I covered alot for Washington Irving and Park West.What year did you retire?I retired \'05, May. I retired very old. I was 72.157 '