b"Did you go?Sure I went. Definitely so. He was happy. He was the best superintendent that I ever worked with. They had goodsuperintendents Sol Aniello, was a good superintendent. They had good managers. Leon Malinowitz was a manager.He died now. His wife was a manager. She died. They were working inthey had a little project off the Hutch, off ofSoundview Avenue. I can't think of the name of the projects. Theyre e still there. They were there even back when thewar was on. They started as Quonset huts. [I thought the huts were in Queens.] Dave Sandwich was there at one time asmanager. It was right on Soundview off Bruckner Boulevard. They had Quonset huts.When you went to work as a caretaker j, you told us a little about how sometimes you went with maintenanceworkers so they would have someone accompany them. What were some of your responsibilities? What were some of the things you did on an average day at Bronxdale Houses?You were assigned buildings. You had to keep those buildings spic and span, so you cleaned those buildings to thebest of your ability. If they had 18 buildingsdepending on how many caretakers, I don' t knowyou had two or threebuildings, six- or seven-story stories, that was your responsibility to take care of those buildings. Then if you were workingin the buildings, then depending on the superintendent, if he had a job, which, like I said, with Hy Katz, he hadBronx-dale was new, so what happened, you had tradesmen, cement men, painters, plasterersthese guys would crack a bagand leave it. When I went to Bronxdale, I don't know how many bags they stored in the basement areamust have been500. When I got there, half of the buildings weren't completed. So anyhow, in this room it was like snow, there was somuch cement you could kick it. The foreman asked me if I would clean the building out. It was a basement area, and youcan imagine what a basement area is like. There were cement bags that were cracked, you had plaster bags. So theforeman says to me,Clean up this area.So, to me, it's a job. I got a bucket of water, swept it up, sprinkle here, sprinklethere. I was able to work with it. After I was finished, I just went on to my regular job. So the superintendent, Hy Katz,he came around and wanted to know, Who cleaned the room? The foreman told him I cleaned it. To me, it was a job.I was glad to have the job, even if it paid $100 a year. So then Hy Katz came to me and told me, You did a good job.He was impressed. Definitely so.As time went along, we became very good friends. Anything he wanted done, he would ask me, because he knewI would do the job. Sometimes, you had a night watchman who was supposed to patrol each individual building youhad tank roomswater meters, water pumps, heat pumpsso, sometimes the watchman didn't come in, he would askme. I would say sure, I don't mind. Then, eventually, I worked with them, through the years, I became a provisionalmaintenance man. I worked with Sal Inello. I worked at Soundview and Morris Houses. I didnt' t take the test. I madeprovisional, but I gave it up. I could have done it, but it wasn't going to last long, so eventually I went to the housingsupply man and I took the test there instead. I stayed there. I was in stores.As maintenance man, you have a lot of responsibility, you had keys to all the apartments. Things would happen.People would say they left things, they left money. When you're involvedbeing a city agencyI didn't want the pressure.So I went in another direction, into housing supply. I retired as a housing supply man.Do you remember the names of your shop stewards?Tom Leath was my immediate supervisor, head of the caretakers.13 "