b"How many students were in the school?There was, maybe, four to six hundred students. There were Jewish kids and another group of very severely handicapped students. At that time, the Board of Ed was on one side of the building. The two agents were able to handleit as it wasnt a bad school. Once the Board of Ed moved out, they filled in that part of the building with a high school. At that time, we got more officers, one was a group leader. She was a sergeant. When it was just the two of us, one personwas at the front desk while the other was patrolling. We rotated.When the high school moved in, the name changed toJuan Morel Campos secondary school. I worked there my whole career.Did you take civil service examinations to get promotions on the job?No, I didnt have to.Were you ever a shop steward or grievance representative for the union?No, but I attended union meetings, and some seminar when I was thinking about retiring.Tell me about a typical day on the job.On a good day, things ran smoothly. You never know when something is going to happen, so you have to be prepared for any kind of incident that might occur. Most of the time, the lunchroom is a problem. Some kids have problems and they want to fight. Most of our problem are at dismissal. If a student has a conflict with another student the day before, they might go home and talk to their older siblings or friends. Then, they might come back to school thenext day preparing for something to happen. They might mention something to one student that'll tell us and this waywe know how to prepare for dismissal at the school. We get prepared and then we'll notify our broader office of what maytake place. We ask for a task force that'll come at our dismissal to help clear the street and kept moving the kids along sothey can go home. Once they are off the school property, things might break out again. My hours were from 7:30 to 4 o'clock. We have an hour for lunch. Then we may take a 10-minute break in between. Later, my hours changed becausethey needed somebody there earlier. My shift changed from seven to 3:30. Some days, my hours were even longer. Theyhad after school that went until 6 o'clock in the evening. I really was working 12 and a half hours a day. And then, on theweekends, we have activities going on and you're working. Did you get overtime for that?Oh, yes. It was put in as comp time.Can you walk me through the day?First, I have to punch in. We always have a logbook noting where we are all day long and noting any incidents that happen. That all came about once we were under the police department in 1995 when Giuliani was mayor. He transitioned us from school safety officer to the NYPD and we became school safety agents. Things changed and we were going by NYPD guidelines.169 "